My colleague Matt Watson brought you the story about LaTroy Hawkins changing numbers in the face of intense booing from Yankee fans. He dared to wear Paul O'Neill's number 21, a no-no to a fan base that still idolizes the hard-nosed leader of four championship teams. Peter Abraham of the LoHud Yankees Blog shares his thoughts on the mess. Paul O'Neill was a good player but not one worthy of having his number retired. At some point, the Yankees have to have some standards. Beyond that, Hawkins wanted 21 to honor Roberto Clemente.
The nod to Clemente is nice but not something that was disseminated to the majority of fans, some of whom were booing Hawkins because he stunk in his first two appearances at the Stadium. The rest of the fans who booed Hawkins are dopes. Booing one guy doesn't honor another in any way, shape or form.
Beyond that, though, Abraham is wrong about O'Neill's worthiness of having his number retired. He's perfectly worthy. He was the starting rightfielder on the Yankees for nine seasons which featured five trips to the World Series and those four titles. He amassed nearly 1500 hits, won a batting title and, as mentioned, was beloved by Yankee fans for his style of play and role on great teams.
If O'Neill did all that for the Padres, you don't think his number would be retired? He's exactly the kind of player who gets his number retired, just not by the Yankees.
16 people have been so honored, most of whom are in the Hall of Fame, and that raises the bar a bit. When you add Derek Jeter, Joe Torre and Mariano Rivera to Monument Park (maybe Bernie Williams and Andy Pettitte as well), you're going to have more that a fifth of numbers under 100 spoken for. That makes a pretty imposing line to get over. That's the part of the fan reaction that baffles me.
The history of the Yankees is so rich that a player of O'Neill's caliber, great as it is, isn't in the upper echelon. Hawkins wearing 21 isn't a comment on O'Neill, then, but an overwhelmingly positive comment on the history of the Yankees. You'd think that a fan base that dines out on tradition would recognize and appreciate that.

















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4-16-2008 @ 6:15PM
tobrien28 said...
Pettitte, Bernie and O'Neil are not worthy of having their numbers retired. That isn't a knock on them, I have great memories of them winning all those World Series' but when you consider all the good players for the Yankees whose numbers haven't been retired it puts it into perspective.
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4-16-2008 @ 7:05PM
A BaseBall Fan said...
I've been on the fence about O'Neil, and I agree with you Tobrien28 about Bernie and Petitte. Josh, your argument about wheter O'Neil contributions would get his number retired from the Padres should warrant the same for the Yanks doesn't quite qualify for me. The Yanks have a long and lofty legacy. The names that played and contributed to the legacy of baseball are legendary in Yanks lore not just baseball lore. Certain teams transcend others. Yanks, like it or not, are one of those teams. Criteria for a jersey to be retired is different I think. If Hawkins would have done better in his outing the fans would not have booed as loudly the second time up and less each time he got up to pitch. Sadly, the Yanks fan will give their own the Bronx welcome if you are not up to their standards.
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4-16-2008 @ 7:06PM
JAlper said...
Baseball Fan - Thanks for your comments but if you take another look at the above, you'll see I agree with your comments about the Yankee legacy and how O'Neill falls short of the line. Doesn't make O'Neill any less worthy in the larger sense, though.
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4-16-2008 @ 7:14PM
A BaseBall Fan said...
Thanks Josh, reread- My bad, hats off to you!
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7-12-2008 @ 3:53AM
Kurt said...
you're all incorrect about Bernie Williams. he was a great Yankee - look at his numbers.
51 belongs out in monument park.
pettitte/oneill - probably not; i agree. Andy might pitch another 2 or 3 seasons, then we may have to change on him. Pauly's long shot, though loved him with those championship teams.
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