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Jake Peavy is the type of pitcher who can change the complexion of an entire franchise. He won the Cy Young award in 2007 as a 26-year-old with the San Diego Padres after compiling an obscene stat line. He went 19-6 with a 2.54 ERA, 1.06 WHIP, and struck out 240 batters in only 223 1/3 innings. He suffered through an injury-riddled 2008 campaign, but still managed to put up an ERA nearly one entire run better than the league average.
Obviously, when Padres general manager Kevin Towers decided to start over with his team by moving his hottest commodity for prospects, Peavy was the guy. Towers has supposedly been in trade talks ever since, though the specific teams and the number of whom are interested seems to fluctuate on a daily basis. This is the Hot Stove league at its very best and worst at the same time. It can be exciting or annoying, depending upon your point of view.
The two main suitors for Peavy seem to be the Cubs and Braves. Let's take a look at where we've been and the chances of a deal moving forward.
Peavy to Chicago Cubs
We've been all over the place with this one. The deal has been rumored to be near done, but it's also been said that there is no possibility. We've heard that Peavy -- he of the no-trade clause power -- wants to play for the Cubs, with an assist to Rick Sutcliffe. We heard about packages involving several Cubs prospects, including Jose Ceda. Then Ceda was dealt to the Marlins for Kevin Gregg. The deal was thought dead again. Then Towers said the Cubs would have to bring in a third team, because he didn't like enough of their prospects. The deal was thought dead again. Well, the latest is that several sources believe the Cubs are going to find a third team. The report where Lou Pinella said the pitching staff is set could be rendered void in the newest rumor, because fifth starter Jason Marquis would be headed to San Diego. Most rumors have indicated the Baltimore Orioles as the third team, and that one-time mega-prospect Felix Pie would be on his way to Baltimore.
For the Cubs, this deal just makes too much sense to not make. You'd replace Marquis with an elite starter, pushing each respective starter back a spot in their rotation. The rotation -- which I've called a dream one before -- would look like: Peavy, Carlos Zambrano, Ryan Dempster, Ted Lilly, and Rich Harden.
Peavy to Atlanta Braves
The Braves were once thought to be the front-runner, and many still believe they will eventually land Peavy. It's no secret the Braves are in desperate need of starting pitching, and they are planning on adding at least two arms to the rotation. If they can swing A.J. Burnett and Derek Lowe, they'll definitely not even worry about dealing prospects to the Padres.
We've heard that Yunel Escobar's inclusion is a must for the Padres, but that Peavy might invoke his no-trade clause if Escobar is included. More recently, we've heard the Braves don't want to deal for Peavy if he insists on keeping a full no-trade clause in his contract.
Most recently, we've heard the Braves and Padres haven't discussed a deal in weeks. With the Winter Meetings in the near future, however, talks could easily be rekindled.
Peavy Somewhere Else?
At first, it was thought that Peavy would veto any deal to an American League team. Then there were rumors that he would consider both the Yankees and the Angels. Both teams, at this time, seem to have set their sights on free agents such as CC Sabathia. Neither has been linked to Peavy in a few weeks. Recently, speculation has the Dodgers tied to Peavy. The Cardinals and Astros are among the teams on Peavy's original list of teams to which he'd approve a trade, but neither is a likely landing spot.
Finally, we're back to the Padres. Towers is going to need a windfall similar to what the Orioles got for Erik Bedard last year. If no one comes with an offer that substantial, it would behoove him to hold onto Peavy. From there, his options are to to build the future around Peavy -- which I already suggested he do -- or trade him for a possible higher haul at the trade deadline. Teams will be more desperate at the deadline, but he runs the risk of an injury to his ace or teams like the Cubs or Braves filling their needs and not being interested any longer.
Prediction
While it's true I told people to give up on the dream a bit ago, I can't help but keep that homer hat on and hope alive. I predict he joins the Cubs rotation and Marquis is shipped out of town. Sean Marshall will be kept around in case injuries should arise.
I believe the Orioles will be the third team, because they still covet Felix Pie. That won't be a problem, because the Cubs are ready to wash their hands of him.
The Braves are going to sign a few pitchers, with Lowe sitting atop their wish-list.
As for the Padres, well, 2009 is going to be a long year. A very, very long year.
As I said earlier, though, this whole Peavy rumor mill mess is a perfect illustration of just how quickly things change when it's Hot Stove time in baseball. Who knows, we could see the Reds swoop in and land Peavy. Stranger things have happened.
Hat-Tip: MLB Trade Rumors



















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
12-01-2008 @ 6:26PM
Cubfan786 said...
Told you to keep the hope alive Matt.
Just a question: do you think its possible for the Cubs to make this deal without giving up Vitters and Smardsja??
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12-02-2008 @ 5:29PM
Joel said...
Here should be the 3 way trade:
San Diego gets Olson from Balt., and one other young pitecher from the Cubs and Vitters for Peavy.
Balt gets Pie to play LF, Cedeno for the IF, Marquis as SP and either Fukudome or Reed Johnson and give up Olson to SD and Roberts.
Cubs get Peavy and Roberts and give up a young pitcher say Hill, Vitters, Cedeno, Pie, Marquis and either Fuludome or Johnson.
Everyone wins.
12-01-2008 @ 7:03PM
dennis said...
YANKS SIGN PEAVY,LOWE,SABATHIA,RAMIREZ AND TEXEIRA AND DOMINATE BASEBALL FROM 2008 THRU 2012 BECOMING FIRST TEAM TO EVER WIN 6 CONSECUTIVE WORLD SERIES
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12-01-2008 @ 8:15PM
Bro said...
Why the Yankees arent pursuing this guy is beyond me. To say they have nothing to offer for him is a joke. How about Hughes/or Kennedy and Cano? Sign Orlando Hudson to play 2nd. The Yanks should pull their offer fo CC and give the $$ Texieria.
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12-02-2008 @ 2:42PM
Ivy Walls said...
I think that the Peavy deal which is a $$ opportunity deal will be made because SD is a motivated seller and the Cubs will be a motivated buyer. Trading Pie for Olson makes sense for the O's since they can move an OF'er but I think this three way will be far bigger than people believe and why it is taking so long.
Pie for Olson fine
Peavy for Olson, Vitters (Cub prospect) Cedeno, Veal
But the Padres want to rid their payroll of Giles and Greene as well where the O's want a SS and the Cubs want a LH RF'er.
Giles is owed $11M (with trade clause) and Greene ($6.5M) in 2009
O's wants to sign Roberts to an extension but have given a deadline, Cubs want a LH lead off hitter
Let us say the Padres ship Greene ($5M) to O's for Roberts ($9M plus 1M for NTC) then ship Roberts ($10 M) and Giles ($11M) to the Cubs for Marquis ($10M) and DeRosa ($6.5M) and Fontenot they then ship DeRosa to the O's for Luke Scott (RF)
Padres shed $12M in payroll (including Peavy) gain Scott(RF), Cedeno (SS), Fontenot (2B), Olson (SP), Marquis (SP), plus two prospects, where the can still trade Marquis for value and shed $10M
O's shed Roberts, Olson & Scott ($9M) gain Greene ($5M) DeRosa ($6.5M) and Pie and move Jones to LF (+$3M)
Cubs shed Marquis, DeRosa, Fontenot, Cedeno, ($17.5M) gain Peavy, Roberts, Giles, (+$ 11M) they are at $125M now with expected arb signings and this takes them to expected ceiling of $136M.
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12-02-2008 @ 5:25PM
Joel said...
I love your trade and here is another. Here should be the 3 way trade:
San Diego gets Olson from Balt., and one other young pitecher from the Cubs and Vitters for Peavy.
Balt gets Pie to play LF, Cedeno for the IF, Marquis as SP and either Fukudome or Reed Johnson and give up Olson to SD and Roberts.
Cubs get Peavy and Roberts and give up a young pitcher say Hill, Vitters, Cedeno, Pie, Marquis and either Fuludome or Johnson.
Everyone wins.
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12-02-2008 @ 9:03PM
Brian said...
As a Cub fan, I can dream too. Here's my trade: Cubs give up R. Hill, J. Vitters, Pie, Theriot, W. Castillo (minor league catcher), Marquis (if someone will take his salary), and S. Marshall if they have to. They get Peavy and Brian Roberts. Fontenot plays S.S., Roberts 2B, and Derosa RF. Johnson and K. Fukodome platoon in center.
O's get R. Hill, Pie, Marquis and Castillo
Padres get Olsen (from O's) J. Vitters, and Sean Marshall. I'd love to dump Pie and Marquis. And having Theriot, Cedeno, and Fontenot (3 players for 2 positions) make no sense. Up grade with Roberts and Peavy. GO CUBS!
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12-02-2008 @ 11:28PM
Mr. Miyagi said...
I expect the Yankees to buy the 4 best pitchers available, then get Texeira and any other good players around, then raise ticket prices, sell more PSL's, and maybe win a World Series occasionally.
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