NEW YORK – Mariano Rivera and Trevor Hoffman got to 500 saves in different ways.Rivera, who earned No. 500 on Sunday night as the Yankees defeated the Mets, did it in the New York spotlight, with his biting cut fastball.
Hoffman was in the relative shadows of San Diego with a changeup as his signature.
But they are more alike than they are different.
"They joke around, they have personalities, but when they get locked in, it's a whole different beast," Brett Tomko, who has sat in the bullpen with both men, told FanHouse.
Rivera got a bonus along with save No. 500: RBI No. 1. Francisco Rodriguez inexplicably walked Rivera with the bases loaded in the top of the ninth, giving the Yankees an insurance run for their 4-2 victory.
"RBI No. 1 is more [memorable]," Rivera said. "It's my first RBI. It's my 500th save."
He was half-serious.
For all the debate about the worthiness of the save as a statistic, there is something to getting the final out of a close game. And to do it 500 times takes a certain combination of skill, confidence, fearlessness and calm.
| All-Time Saves Leaders | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pitcher | Saves | ||||
| Trevor Hoffman | 571 | ||||
| Mariano Rivera | 500 | ||||
| Lee Smith | 478 | ||||
| John Franco | 424 | ||||
| Dennis Eckersley | 390 | ||||
Tomko joined the Yankees this spring, and one of the first things he wanted to find out was how Rivera compares to Hoffman.
They're from the same mold, it turns out.
"I think the main thing is focus, work ethic," Tomko said. "I think from what I've seen here with Mo, they have the routines, they stick with it, their even keel. I think the thing I like most about them is they're very humble. They go in, they do their job, there's not a whole lot of show to them, you wouldn't know if they were saving the first game of their career or the 500th. They act like they've done it a million times, and to me to see both of them ... pretty much act the same way when they finish the game, I think it's a cool thing."
As Rivera said, while some closers might point to the sky or pound their chests after a save, "I go home. Simple as that. My personality is just different."
Rivera's humility is genuine. Asked about his impending milestone on Sunday afternoon, he demurred somewhat.
"It is something special," Rivera said. "There's only one guy that has done it in Major League Baseball. It's a great achievement. But at the same time, without my teammates, I could not do anything."
Asked what he admires about Hoffman, Rivera said, "The way he takes care of his business. You never hear anything about the guy. He always respects the game and goes [about] his business."
And Rivera prides himself on being the same way.
Asked if he has the goal of passing Hoffman (571 saves) for the all-time lead, Rivera said, typically, "I am not looking for no records. I'm not here for that. I'm here to play baseball and win World Series. If it happens, it happens."
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Rivera, 39, earned his first save on May 17, 1996, during his year as set-up man for John Wetteland (getting Garret Anderson for the final out, with Girardi callng the pitch). The following winter, Rivera was home in Panama when manager Joe Torre called to tell him he'd be the closer in '97.
"I didn't even know John Wetteland was no longer with the team," Rivera recalled.
But Rivera was made for the role, even though he throws nothing but fastballs – mostly that cutter, with an occasional sinker that runs the opposite way (away from lefties) to keep hitters off-balance.
"He's a remarkable pitcher," Girardi said. "And to think that he's done it with one pitch is even harder to imagine.
"I know he sinks it and he cuts it and he elevates it, but just the consistency of his location with his fastball for so many years is really incredible."
While Rivera doesn't get enough credit for his command, it's his control of his emotions that make him a great closer.
"There's a switch," Tomko said. "I think with Mo, he's talkative until it comes about the eighth inning. And then that switch turns on, and you kind of know, OK, let's leave him alone.
"Trevor was fair game for the first three innings because he was down in the bullpen. And then he went inside, and when he started his routine, getting ready, that was it. You didn't mess with him. He was polishing his shoes, getting his arm worked on, and when he came back out in the seventh, that was it."
The skinny guy from Panama and goateed Californian have their differences. But think of it this way: their theme songs – "Enter Sandman" and "Hell's Bells" – aren't the same, but are both, at their core, heavy metal.
Both players, at their core, are classy gentlemen, good teammates and cold-blooded closers.
"They're probably more similar that you'd think," Tomko said of the 500-save men. "I would love to be a fly on the wall and see them go out to lunch and just talk about the game and talk about their careers. It would be a pretty cool lunch."

















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6-29-2009 @ 7:20AM
DICK JENSEN said...
STERIODS, LOADED BATS, NEW BALLPARK BUILT WITH THE PREVAILING WIND BLOWING OUT, BIGGEST PAYROLL IN BASEBALL, EX YANKEE BOB WATSON MAKING SURE THE YANKEES ARE PROTECTED BY THE LEAGUE. I GUESS THAT'S A LITTLE HELP. MAYBE OBAMA COULD SPEAD THERE WEALTH TO THE LESS FORTUNATE TEAMS. MAYBE A LITTLE STIMULAS.
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6-29-2009 @ 1:36PM
big blue said...
Dick you must be just like your name says a DICK! What does all that you mentioned have to do with Mariano getting 500 saves??? Prevailing winds blowing out helps a pitcher huh? Besides the NEW stadium is right next to the old one facing the same direction, there were NO winds there so must be a NEW jet stream a block over. What a dunce YOU are not to mention a real DICK
6-29-2009 @ 7:22AM
vettura said...
THIS ONE GUY THAT FANS GET WHAT THEY PAID FOR...NO CLUBBING WITH GUNS AND NO DRUGS.
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6-29-2009 @ 7:24AM
vettura said...
TO DICK JENSEN: YOU'RE A DICK!
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6-29-2009 @ 7:39AM
Frank said...
Congrats Mariano, a true gentleman of the game.
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6-29-2009 @ 9:19AM
theevildave said...
I hate the Yankees! I alsomust say Congrats Rivera! Amazing milestone!
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6-29-2009 @ 9:32AM
Edwin said...
Dick,don't worry about the Yankkees spending "Ya Hump" worry about your empty pockets!!!@!!!
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6-29-2009 @ 9:55AM
dewit202 said...
Bravo Mariano - The last remaining Yankee with class.
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6-29-2009 @ 10:10AM
bobbekelle said...
I met Mo over the winter at a parking garage in nyc he coulndn't have been a better person signed baseballs took pictures and talked baseball for about 10 minutes with me and about 3 other people nothing but class
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6-29-2009 @ 10:22AM
TIM said...
comparitively speaking, i must congratulate Mariano Riviera for doing what ONLY 2 men have ever done in baseball history.
my feeling is that the stat of the save has become VASTLY and GROSSLY overrated. a closer could throw one single pitch and get a save. or he could give up a couple of runs in one inning and get a save. its the same as a hold....another stat that is becoming annoying. i know there are no sure ways to gauge the measure of a very good pithcer from the bullpen but these stats but lets not lose sight of what the stats really are. if these guys had had to pitch 2-3 innings to get a save then i could justify glory given to the stat, but as it stands, No. if you want to talk about truly great pitchers, stick with the Tom Seavers, Cy Youngs, Nolan Ryans, Catfish Hunters, Don Suttons...this list could go on and on and on, and with very good reason. they pitched their way to greatness by gobbling up innings. their teams could always depend on them to keep them in the games for 6,7,8 and 9 innings.
make no mistake, i DO give credit where its due and it is acknowledged that Riviera and Hoffman are GREAT at their craft. also, comparitely speaking, does the fact that these men have almost 2x the saves of Rollie Fingers mean that they are 2x better? i HARDLY think so. Fingers usually went in for 2-3 innings.
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6-29-2009 @ 11:01AM
karl said...
Tim what has not changed over the years is ERA and when you have time look up Rivera's earned run average, particularly in the post season. GREAT pitcher for a long time!
6-29-2009 @ 10:40AM
umpsrok said...
Unlike "the Eck" or Lee Smith who pitched 2 and 3 innings to get saves Rivera pitches maybe one. Also, Eck was a starter for three teams before becoming the class reliever he was. How many games did Rivera start? NONE. Hoffman pitched in San Diego and is now in Milwaukee. Both of these teams would fall in the AL.
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6-29-2009 @ 11:07AM
lak23 said...
Cooperstown Bound!
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6-29-2009 @ 11:36AM
memasdad052 said...
Hell Iam 52 yrs old I can pitch 1 inning of a game or 1 out Put me in cooperstowm
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6-29-2009 @ 11:38AM
yanki07 said...
OK Johnathon Paplebon - thats why Mariano closes in Yankee Stadium during an AllStar Game. When you mature to his level then you will be as great as you can be. Check your ego at the door and let you're pitching show your talents.
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6-29-2009 @ 3:39PM
dewit202 said...
Ok Yanki if your team could acquire Pap betcha you would not be aginst it - not one bit.
6-29-2009 @ 11:43AM
tonytiger18 said...
While I haven't seen Hoffman on a regular basis, I can't imagine any closer being as consistently outstanding than Mariano.
Eckersly, Goose Gossage, Fingers, Smoltz were great; but, seeing Mo on a daily basis with his consistency, humility, class, professionalism and strong competitiveness, He would be my choice for the best and most valuable reliver of all time.
You see all the new guys with their fist pumping, arms extended to the sky, fake show of emotions, and it is at that moment that you realize that there are pretenders and then their is Mariano!!! No comparison.
Congratulations to Mariano and thank you for what you are.
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6-29-2009 @ 12:02PM
tonytiger18 said...
This article is about Mariano.
Kurt, you are at the wrong place and time for your political views. Go to FOX news, this is about sports.
Stay away from caffeine.
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6-29-2009 @ 12:36PM
Butch said...
Yes, the save or hold stat can be deceiving. When you add up all the other stats, tell me you rather
have someone else pitching the ninth inning.
Mo has way more inning plus saves then one out saves.
For the record umpsrock, Rivera did start as an rookie and was a lights out set up man the following season.
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6-29-2009 @ 1:35PM
joebividu said...
To Dickhead Dick Jensen: Nothing like sour grapes and sore losers. Major League Baseball already has a Stimulus Package: It's called Luxury Tax in which the Yankees are the prime (maybe only) payers, subsidizing the so-called small-market teams that use the money the Yankees give them to go into the pockets of the owners, instead of into developing their teams. And is there any other major league team that goes into other ballparks and fills fannies like the Yankees? I'm sure every team in MLB wants the Yankees to go to their ballparks and sell out their attendance.
To Umprock: Mariano Rivera didn't set the rules for relievers. I think that Eckersley and Goose Gossage are true closers because they used to pitch 2 or 3 inning saves.
And, at a time when closers are prima donnas (Francisco Rodriguez, Papelbon) and brittle (Lidge, Ryan, Putz, etc.), give Mariano Rivera the credit and respect he deserves for doing it for as long as he has and for being so humble and classy. Mariano never shows up the other team, never has a tirade on the mound, never embarasses an umpire, and never showboats at the end of a game like K-Rod and Papelbon.
Mariano is truly a classy closer.
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