
There has been no shortage of teams interested in acquiring Blue Jays ace Roy Halladay since the moment he was put on the block, but all along, the one club pegged as the favorite in the sweepstakes has been the Phillies. Over the weekend, FanHouse's Ed Price reported that the Jays had to have both J.A. Happ and Kyle Drabek in any potential deal with Philadelphia, a concession the reigning world champs have so far been unwilling to make.
So with only four days remaining to the trade deadline, we have to wonder if this trade is going to happen. More importantly, should it happen? It's obvious why the Blue Jays want to move Halladay, and even more obvious why the Phillies want him in their rotation, but there are other things Philly should think about besides becoming an instant World Series favorite as it tries to swing a deal for the righty.
The Phillies simply aren't sure they want to give up such a key portion of what could be the franchise's future -- Happ, Drabek and outfield prospect Dominic Brown -- for a pitcher they're only guaranteed to have through 2010.
It's a financially prudent way of looking at things, and quite popular one at the moment, given the uncertainty of the economy. Teams just don't want to spend a lot of money on proven veterans, even ones the caliber of Halladay, if it means giving up on young -- and cheap -- talent.
According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Phillies, unwilling to include both pitchers, have since tried to construct a package around Carlos Carrasco and shortstop Jason Donald, an offer which doesn't satisfy the Blue Jays.
So should the Phillies relent and give Toronto what they want? Or would they be better off saying thanks, but no thanks?
It's a tough call.
On the one hand, you give up the three players the Jays want and you're right back at the top of the National League. It's not as though Philadelphia needs Halladay to win the NL East at this point, what with the Mets losing about three players a day and the Marlins and Braves playing too inconsistently to pose a real threat.
Instead, bringing in Halladay would be for one specific purpose -- to win another World Series. In a city that was starved for sporting success before the Phils won the World Series last season, winning two in a row would cement them as the cornerstone of the Philadelphia sports scene.
It would keep the turnstiles churning and the dollars rolling in. Plus, let's not forget that Philly would still have Halladay in 2010, so they'd likely be in contention for another title next season.
On the flip side of that, how much better would the Phillies really be if they give up Happ for Halladay? Happ is 7-1 on the season with a 2.97 ERA and a WHIP of 1.18. With numbers like that, how much of a boost could they really get from Halladay if they do trade for him?Yes, Halladay is a much better pitcher, but his numbers don't blow Happ away. Halladay is 11-3 with a 2.62 ERA and a 1.05 WHIP. Better numbers, but not other-wordly.
This is no doubt something that Ruben Amaro Jr. has spent some time thinking about the last few weeks. Why give up a young lefty like Happ and two other top prospects when the boost you get from Halladay may not be all that significant?
Sure it would make the Phils the favorite in the minds of the media and the fans, but just because people expect it to happen doesn't mean it will, especially in a sport as unpredictable as baseball.
Then after thinking about that for a while, Amaro's thoughts no doubt wander elsewhere. If the Phillies don't get Halladay, who will?
It's a distinct possibility that the Dodgers could wind up coming away with the biggest prize at this year's trade deadline, though, much like Philly, they're very hesitant to give up a young left-hander, in their case Clayton Kershaw.
Still, if the Phillies say no to Toronto and Los Angeles is the only real bidder left -- I just don't see the Yankees giving up both Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes for Halladay, for example -- J.P. Ricciardi perhaps could lower his asking price a little bit.
If that were to happen, then not getting Halladay would really sting the Phillies. Not only did they pass up their chance to get him, but their biggest roadblock to the World Series would have scooped him up in the wake of their decision.
Now instead of having Halladay pitching, say, Game 7 of the NLCS for them, the Phillies could be facing him. Not exactly a dream scenario, is it?
In the end, that's why the Phillies should pull the trigger on the deal and get it done, even if they have to give up Happ, Drabek and Brown to do so. If I were a general manager, I want to do everything I can to win now. Yes, the future is important, but there will be other draft picks and young stars coming through your organization if baseball operations is doing its job right.After having to wait 28 years between World Series titles, the Phillies know all too well that you can't take it for granted that you're going to get back to the top of the mountain anytime soon.
When an opportunity like this comes along, you have to go for it.
It may work out. It may not. If the Phillies do get Halladay nobody will be able to say they didn't do everything they could to try to get the job done. There's not much else that you can ask a general manager to do.

















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
7-27-2009 @ 12:05PM
h18sticks said...
Giving up Happ adds nothing to the rotation and certainly doesn't guarantee another World Series. I would give up Draybek unless he is everything and more than what they are saying about him. The I'd ask why isn't he with the big club anyway. One or the other but not both!
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7-29-2009 @ 4:50AM
chris said...
Drabek was pretty heralded when the Phillies drafted him but then he ended up getting hurt and needing Tommy John surgery, so they drafted Savery in the following year's draft. Carrasco came in as an undrafted free agent and started making a name for himself as a guy with a ridiculous changeup and impressive K totals among other things, Matheison was always back and forth between impressive prospect and average upside, Gio Gonzales was a big name though he was traded to CWS and eventually OAK, Savery was a big name and still is, Carpenter was a big name last year who some thought would not be as impressive as Carrasco but was more reliable, Josh Outman was not necessarily a big name but a big club guy, not to mention Happ, Kendrick who came out of nowhere, Durbin who was up and down, and a few other guys. Well, recently, Drabek came back from Tommy John surgery so much better than he was before it that it's ridiculous, with the poise of an ace, an almost perfect delivery, better control, and better pretty much everything. That's why he's not in the big club yet, nor should he be until he's ready, and don't forget that he's only 21. He is as close as you can get to the real deal right now though, and everything about him screams Cy Young winner in the future. Screw Hamels and Halladay, I want Hamels and Drabek.
And Red Sox fans, I think your team's going to get him. Clay Buchols, Justin Masterson or a 1B as well as a lower tier prospect? Yeah, I'd say that's going to get the job done quickly. If the Jays don't accept it it will probably because of the fact that you're division rivals.
7-27-2009 @ 12:17PM
Mark said...
When you are doing as well as the Phillies are, why give away the future, take on a big salary , and possibly lose the guy to free agency? If it isnt broke, don't fix it. I'm a Red Sox fan and I wouldnt want them to give up the farm to get him either and they could probably use him right now. It isnt worth it
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7-27-2009 @ 12:37PM
Frank and Angela said...
I disagree. Why give up your entire future for the present. Like I said in a blog yesterday, trade Happ or Drabek, one current player on the roster, future considerations and cash. If that isn't enough, stand pat. The Phillies can go all the way without Halladay. GO PHILLIES
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7-27-2009 @ 9:29PM
asgoodasitgets73 said...
my deal on this is to try and pull one over on everybody....At the same time make the move for both Halladay and Lee. Since it looks like you could get Lee for the second tier prospects, I would give them Carrasco and Donald and whoever they want other than Drabek and Brown..Throw in Tayler for good measure...If we had Halladay, Hamels and Lee in our rotation, foget about it and we can afford both of them with all the salary we pick up next year with our last several busts coming off the payroll. Lee is affordable for his caliber of pitcher. I think if they thought about it, you might as well lose all your prospects and get the best out of it
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7-28-2009 @ 1:09PM
infinitestealth said...
Pull the trigger and go for it. Strike while the iron is hot. Propects come and go and the entire future of a team should not hinge on em. Help pack their bags and wish em luck.
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7-29-2009 @ 10:18AM
juemad said...
The Phillies are built to win NOW. Prospects come and go. A prospect today is a suspect tomorrow. Halladay is the real deal. You're trading prospects for a sure thing. Dare to be great. Go for it.
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7-29-2009 @ 10:21AM
juemad said...
Prospects today are suspects tomorrow. The Phillies are built to win now. Halladay is the real thing. Dare to be great. Go for it.
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7-30-2009 @ 11:37AM
Mike B. said...
Prospects are what dreams are made of. Most never live up to expectations. If I owned the club, nothing would stop me from attaining Halladay !
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