Has it been 20 years? Wow, that's me. I'm glancing at the last photo in the middle of Roger Kahn's mostly toothless book in collaboration with Pete Rose called "My Story." The date of the photo is August 24, 1989, and as I study it, I remember feeling as if somebody had shoved a resin bag down my throat.Moments before somebody snapped this photo in Cincinnati, baseball commissioner Bart Giamatti did the unthinkable in New York: He ignored Rose's distinction as the game's all-time hits leader, and he knocked an automatic trip to Cooperstown away from Rose with a lifetime ban from baseball for gambling on the sport.
That's me, all right. I'm sitting in the front row of a news conference that Rose called at Riverfront Stadium after Giamatti's shocker. I'm looking down at my notebook for what appears to be an eternity instead of glancing up at Rose, standing the length of two Louisville Sluggers away. Twenty years later, I still remember why: I was angry over Rose, Giamatti and the whole situation. So I'm sitting there, scribbling and thinking between clenched teeth as Rose delivered his version of saying "I am not a crook" by uttering "I did not bet on baseball."
I'm scribbling and thinking about Rose as my favorite player ever as a youth.
I'm scribbling and thinking about how he became my favorite player as a journalist.
I'm scribbling and thinking about how I covered most of his famous moments during the latter part of his career.
I'm scribbling and thinking about how he got himself into this mess.
I'm scribbling and thinking about how he just lied when he said with a straight face that he did not bet on baseball, especially since baseball investigators discovered his fingerprints on numerous betting slips.
I'm scribbling and thinking about becoming a Hall of Fame voter within the next couple of years and about how I couldn't vote for him courtesy of the rules on the ballot that say you must consider "character" and "integrity."
I'm scribbling and thinking about wanting to cry.
Well, it's been 20 years, and with dry eyes, I'm scribbling and thinking about redemption, and mostly about how it's time for Rose to become bronzed with the rest of his peers in Cooperstown. In other words, it's time for everybody to forgive and to forget, including Bud Selig, the current commissioner, who was a close friend of Giamatti who died just days after banning Rose.
The thing is, Selig will never reinstate Rose, and the commissioner suggested as much in this space a few weeks ago.
Even if Selig did show mercy in this case that deserves as much, Rose would have another problem: Time. Unlike before, I can't help his Hall of Fame chances in the future with a stroke of my pen, and neither can any of my colleagues in the Baseball Writers Association of America (BBWAA). That's because we only can vote for those who are no farther than 15 years removed from their last game, and Rose is beyond that mark. As a result, members of the Veterans Committee would have to decide Rose's Hall of Fame fate, and that includes all living members of Cooperstown .
Not good for Rose. Not now, and likely such will be the case forever. That's because most living members of Cooperstown are vehemently against Rose's entry since betting on baseball has been the game's unpardonable sin. It has roots to the Black Sox Scandal that nearly killed baseball after the 1919 World Series.
Their position is justified, but not when you match all of that against a couple of more compelling points.
First, this is a sporting culture of second chances -- maybe of six and seven chances if you're talking about Michael Vick, who is back in the NFL after issues spanning from flipping off his hometown fans to ugly incidents at security check points at airports to that dogfighting stuff. Elsewhere, despite government proof that they've been artificially enhanced for years, Alex Rodriguez is still playing, and the same goes for Manny Ramirez and others. And do you remember the ugly brawl at The Palace of Auburn Hills? Probably not, because most have forgotten it.
The poster child for that brawl was Ron Artest, but he continues to play, prosper and star and rightfully so.Artest has paid his price.
Rose has, too, which brings me to the last of those compelling points. In addition to a forced exile for two decades from the game that was his life (and that's punishment enough), Rose did confess his sins a few years ago. It was clumsy, but he nevertheless mentioned through another book that he bet, not only baseball, but on the Cincinnati Reds, his hometown team and eventually his team as a player and as a manager. It also was my team as a youth, especially when it was the Big Red Machine during the 1970s, with Rose as its ever-hustling sparkplug.
After we moved from South Bend, Ind., to Cincinnati during the late 1960s, my two brothers and I lived at old Crosley Field and later Riverfront Stadium. I was fascinated by the high-energy guy who sprinted to first base after walks, snatched fly balls out of the air with a quick snap of his wrists and dove, nose first, into bases.
His former wife, Karolyn, did a commercial on local television for Gulden's mustard, saying with a smile from her kitchen, "Hi, I'm Pete Rose's wife, and we use Gulden's golden brown mustard, just like they do at Crosley Field."
I still use the stuff.
Then there was May 14, 1975, Tony Perez's birthday and the first time I was in a major league clubhouse. I went to school up the road in Oxford, Ohio at Miami University , and I was a scared college newspaper writer coming to interview one of the Cincinnati Reds radio announcers with Miami (Ohio) ties. Rose walked up to me in the clubhouse with a smile, stuck out his hand and asked for my name. I fumbled with a response (I mean, this was my guy), and he nodded with another smile and said, "Well, when you work for the Cincinnati Enquirer someday, we'll talk more."
Two years later, I'm at the Cincinnati Enquirer. I'm walking through the Reds clubhouse, and I get a tap on my shoulder. It's Rose. He remembered my name.
Over the next decade or so, while working for the Cincinnati Enquirer and later for the San Francisco Examiner and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, I was there for nearly everything Peter Edward Rose.
I was there during much of Rose's 44-game hitting streak, second only to Joe DiMaggio's impossible number of 56. I was there when Rose became baseball's most wined-and-dined free agent ever at the time before he left an absolutely shattered Cincinnati to sign with the Philadelphia Phillies. I was there during the 1980 World Series when Phillies catcher Bob Boone dropped a pop fly in Game 6 but a hustling Rose charged from first base to snatch the ball before it hit the ground. I was there when Rose cried in the arms of his son, Petey, at first base at Riverfront after his single landed in left field to break Ty Cobb's all-time hits record. I was there a few days after Rose returned to an absolutely giddy Cincinnati as player-manager of the Reds.
I also was there when he lied about not betting on baseball.
I've forgiven him for that.
So should everybody.
Terence Moore is a national columnist and commentator for FanHouse. He is a frequent panelist on "Rome Is Burning", an ESPN show hosted by Jim Rome, that is seen Monday through Friday at 4:30 PM ET. Moore spent more than three decades working for major newspapers, including 26 years as an award-winning sports columnist for the San Francisco Examiner and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. He resides in Atlanta .
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
8-31-2009 @ 6:38PM
MiKe said...
how cant he be in the hof but the people who beat there wifes up do drugs or break the laws are forgiving just like thatb ut betting is soo unforgiving i bet if he did drugs or was a drunk or wife beater he would been in the hof a long long long time ago i say if the people who used roid get in b4 pete I AM DONE WITH BASEBALL
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8-31-2009 @ 6:48PM
craigwied said...
He bet on Baseball. That's the only rule that get you thrown oput of the game. It's plastered all over the clubhouse and pounded into the head of all coaches. player and manager. HE BET ON BASEBALL! Screw him! OUT
Bart Giamanti was interviewed Sunday and said that he did not bet when Mario Soto pitched and it influenced the betting line and action on the Reds. Him not betting was as much a signle to big player as his betting was. Screw Rose, you committed the mortal baseball sin
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8-31-2009 @ 7:09PM
the cooker said...
Give me a break idiot. Show me one time Pete ever threw a game as a player or manager.
8-31-2009 @ 11:34PM
James said...
Betting is only the excuse they are using to keep Rose out of the Hall. He was a hard-nosed, uncompromising,Ty Cobb type player. Ty Cobb's was hated by some of his own teammates, and players all over baseball. Rose is the same way. Hated by many. But he never cheated the game. The PED users did cheat the game, and the Hall Of Fame is full of them. Rose will get in...but not until after he passes away. They won't give him the satisfaction of being in the Hall during his life time. It really is a shame.
9-01-2009 @ 10:28AM
tonytiger18 said...
Most Christian churches have confessionals.Judaism has a day of atonement.
Democracies have penal systems where after you do the time, you are released .
Pete Rose commited an infraction that is deemed a mortal sin by many baseball fans.
He initially lied about it.
He has paid a steep price for his infractions.
We forgive many that have committed worse.
Murderers, rapists, felons, & other offenders are all forgiven after doing their time.
Dog mutilators, wife beaters, drug users, child molesters are all forgiven and back on the street.
Pete Rose was none of those.
He played a game and became a manager.Then, he bet on the games. The games that he loved and played with stellar magnifigence.
He has a paid a steep price for his infraction.
It is time to let him get back to the game in some capacity and to the baseball fans.
8-31-2009 @ 6:50PM
Steve said...
Rose induction. Sorry no. But who cares. At present these guys can't hit their weight even with steroids. Rose had no respect and therefore deserves none.
Signed, I am also done with baseball. Sorry Mickey.
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8-31-2009 @ 7:09PM
3rd force said...
I have no objection to people like Pete Rose, Bobby Bonds, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa and Roger Clemens being inducted into the Hall of Fame - - - POSTHUMOUSLY.
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8-31-2009 @ 7:16PM
Mark said...
He broke the rules and then he lied about it. That being said this is my opinion. He should be reinstated and the rule should be changed. I think if you bet on your own team should be suspended one year.( potentially doing something that could hurt your team in the long run to win a bet shouldnt go unpunished).If you bet against your own team or try "point shaving" then you should get a lifetime suspension
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8-31-2009 @ 7:17PM
Ken said...
Dear Nr. Moore, all I can say is thank you for so elegantly and professionally putting into words which I couldn't agree more with. Thank you so very much!!! From the bottom of my heart, I pray that the objectors, especially Mr. Selig, LET PETE IN. I thought this was a forgiving society... well it's time for American and all lifetime fans of the best sport ever invented to wake up and forgive, and let the best hitter the game has ever had into the HALL OF FAME. Again, thank you Mr. Moore and LET PETE IN!!!!!!!
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8-31-2009 @ 7:20PM
John A. Bowen said...
Pete Rose did do something wrong, he lied about his betting on Cincinnati to win. It was a bad thing and he finally admitted it. What about the members of the Hall that were on drugs, no not steroids, but cocaine, ect? That is ok? What about Mantle and Mays being reviewed due to ads about casinos? That is ok? How often have we heard the stories of star athletes being high or drunk completing impressive accomplishments. Hmmm Now we have steriods. Can it be compared to Pete Rose's lie? Everyone will debate it for a life time when the folks with the steroid pasts come forward and are reviewed. Betting is bad, but there are worse vices.........
What can be said for Pete, his on field marks may, but probably will not be ever matched? He is the "Hit King" of over 4000 hits, but the thing that stands out for me is his versatility. Starting an All Star game in 5 different positions? That will never be touched. His hustle, love of the game, and his drive to win may be matched but never will be surpassed.
I think its time. Pete deserves the Hall. He accomplished a lot, but will be remembered for living a lie.
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8-31-2009 @ 7:48PM
coyotebluffs said...
"I had been acquitted by a 12-man jury in a civil court on all charges, an innocent man in the records,” he said. To this day, I have never made any attempt to be reinstated. This is not a plea of any kind. This is just my story. I’m telling it simply because after all these years, it seems the world should hear what I have to say. Baseball never kept faith with me.” Shoeless Joe Jackson. Mr. Moore if you want to forgive Pete Rose that's a personal matter between he and you. With which of the two words of "lifetime ban," which Mr. Rose voluntarily accepted, are you having difficulty understanding, Mr. Moore? If a man, Shoeless Joe, found innocent in civil court was never reinstated, why should a person who confessed his guilt be reinstated? If Mr. Rose is ever voted into the HOF, it should be posthumously. He should never ever know or believe his accomplishments were greater than the disgrace and dishonor he brought to himself and more importantly, to the game of baseball.
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9-02-2009 @ 4:59PM
David said...
I agree 100%! He bet on baseball, and if you know anyone with gambling problems, you know he bet against his team. Even if not actively betting against the Reds, whenever he didn't bet on his team it would have been seen as a trigger for others to bet against them. Would he rest Sabo and Griffey and bet on the Reds? No! So gamblers could watch his moves to determine theirs.
By the way, Shoeless Joe's only crime was naivety, since he batted over 300 for the World Series.
8-31-2009 @ 8:36PM
zodiac killer said...
I think if he had admitted to it in the beginning, he would be in, but he lied. Hell, the way things are going, who really cares anymore!
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8-31-2009 @ 8:56PM
JimmyStyle said...
Great article, Terence! I agree....let's forgive him, get him in the HOF, and be thankful for the positive things he did.
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8-31-2009 @ 9:12PM
gmdm722 said...
gambling or no gambling rose was one of the best baseball players of all time.....
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8-31-2009 @ 9:21PM
Adam said...
what's sick is that Selig will get in the HOF if he's not in already.
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8-31-2009 @ 9:38PM
sonchopanza said...
Pete needs to kill a few pups to be forgiven, let the guy in the HOF, he is still a great player who made a mistake.
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8-31-2009 @ 9:49PM
jzz3skys said...
Terence Moore writes: "I'm scribbling and thinking about becoming a Hall of Fame voter within the next couple of years and about how I couldn't vote for him courtesy of the rules on the ballot that say you must consider 'character' and 'integrity.'"
You're quoting Rule No. 5 for election to the Hall of Fame, which according to the author of a recent book, is the wrong rule. Rose is actually excluded from consideration under part E of Rule 3 that bars players on baseball’s ineligible list — those banned from any role in Major League Baseball — not under Rule 5, which says a player’s integrity and character are among the factors on which voting should be based.
http://web.baseballhalloffame.org/hofers/rules.jsp
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8-31-2009 @ 9:50PM
pauline7648 said...
There was a rule implemented years ago that any player who bets on baseball will be banned for life. Life means just that and is not intended to be bent just because your name is Rose. The White Sox players who were banned from baseball and the Hall of Fame are not eligible though certain players had appealled. When the first White Sox player who was banned is allowed to enter the Hall, then Rose should be allowed to enter as well - after waiting the same number of years as that first White Sox player, which at this point is 90 years. Rose deserves no better nor lesser treatment than any other player, but many fans seem to think that "stars" deserve special treatment. Baseball doesn't have that many rules with respect to a players conduct - if you want to play and reap the benefits, follow them.
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8-31-2009 @ 10:05PM
zemog44 said...
During the Dodger's recent televised game against the Reds in Cincinnati, the two Dodger announcers asked the viewers to text their answer to the following question: Should Pete Rose be allowed back into major league baseball? The announcer went on to say that should also cover the argument of Pete Rose being accepted into the Hall Of Fame. The voting was done from the 1st inning until the 8th when the results were given. Get this! 83% of the responders said YES! The announcers had lunch with Pete the following day and told him of this and they said Pete was downright giddy for the remainder of their time together. But you know what? To me and I'm sure millions of baseball fans everywhere, Pete Rose has been in the Hall of Fame since he retired! Why even have something called the Baseball Hall of Fame when one of the top 5 players of all time isn't in it? Making it official would be nice, especially if it is done before he dies, but Charlie Hustle IS in the Hall of Fame.
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