DETROIT -- Justin Morneau wants to know why Joe Mauer never gave him signs.
"I've been batting behind Joe for five years," Morneau said Thursday. "I haven't gotten a sign yet. I'm still waiting."
An amateur analysis on YouTube accused Mauer, the possible AL MVP, of tipping the catcher's signs from second base Tuesday.
But Jason Kubel, the hitter at the time, said he wasn't looking for the help.
"Not that I know of," Kubel said.
The YouTube video -- put together by a user named "rolemodel2008" who in an e-mail identified himself as Tony Faust of Maple Grove, Minn. -- alleges, with subtitles, that with Mauer on second base during Kubel's sixth-inning plate appearance against Detroit's Justin Verlander, Mauer touched his helmet in certain places to let Kubel know what was coming.
Kubel wound up hitting a sacrifice fly.
"Joe, even at first base, is always touching his face or his ear," Kubel said.
"It's hard to fit his head in that helmet, I guess," Morneau said.
Mauer declined interview requests before Thursday's game. Morneau was partly amused, partly annoyed at the accusations.
"I think it's funny," Morneau said, "but at the same time, you can look at anybody standing on second base and make the connection.
"That's funny because he's giving [Kubel] the fastball, and [Verlander] throws 100. He's not looking for the fastball?"
"That's why we're three games back," he said. "We scored two runs last night. We're stealing a lot of signs."
Gardenhire shook his head.
"Chrysler! " he said. "You're giving people too much credit here boys."
There were a few problems with the allegations. With a runner on second base, catchers use a sequence of signs to disguise the pitch call. Runners can try to communicate location, but they know if they're not subtle, the defensive team will retaliate with inside pitches. At some points, Mauer doesn't even look at catcher Gerald Laird.
And Kubel, who watched the video Thursday morning and called it "funny," said it misidentified some of the pitches.
Responded Faust: "I'm just a fan of Mauer's, but I saw it plain as day in real time, so I recorded it on my iPhone and posted it. I am 100 percent confident that is what was going on, but obviously have no way to prove it. ... I just think it's interesting and love inside baseball.
"I didn't want Mauer to take heat for this, just wanted to point it out for people that he is trying REALLY hard to make the playoffs."
Of course, no one denies that there is sign-stealing, or at least attempts at it.
"I wish we could steal signs," Gardenhire said.
"If somebody is stealing your signs, then you're probably not doing a real good job protecting your signs."
Said Morneau: "Guys do it, but Joe's not one of them, I know that."
I agree, it is not cheating. Stealing signs from the field by the players and coaches(as opposed to say, using binoculars in the scoreboard) has been a part of baseball for 100 years. Most players will tell you that they don't want the signs as it just messes them up. Although the 1951 Dodgers might disagree.
That's definitely nothing more than a coincidence that Joe touches his helmet a lot. If you look at the video around the 2:30 mark, you'll see he touches his helmet before the catcher finishes going through the signs and gets ready for the pitch.
Come on now. Did this guy watch the game? Joe Mauer touches his ear before the breaking ball, and the fast ball. If he was stealing signs i wouldn't want to be his teammate as he did not tip me off one bit.
Come on! I applaud the guy who knows nothing about baseball for trying to make a story. But the first two times he touches his helmet were two totally different pitches! 0:30 touches his helmet - two seam fastball. 1:22 touches his helmet - 12-6 curveball! If he was supposed to be tipping, I'd be pretty mad as the batter sitting dead red 0-1 screwing myself into the ground. Get over it, play ball.
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10-01-2009 @ 5:15PM
celseller said...
I agree, it is not cheating. Stealing signs from the field by the players and coaches(as opposed to say, using binoculars in the scoreboard) has been a part of baseball for 100 years. Most players will tell you that they don't want the signs as it just messes them up. Although the 1951 Dodgers might disagree.
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10-01-2009 @ 6:52PM
Stevo said...
That's definitely nothing more than a coincidence that Joe touches his helmet a lot. If you look at the video around the 2:30 mark, you'll see he touches his helmet before the catcher finishes going through the signs and gets ready for the pitch.
10-01-2009 @ 9:13PM
ezimm4 said...
Come on now. Did this guy watch the game? Joe Mauer touches his ear before the breaking ball, and the fast ball. If he was stealing signs i wouldn't want to be his teammate as he did not tip me off one bit.
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10-01-2009 @ 10:42PM
jbjeep3 said...
Come on! I applaud the guy who knows nothing about baseball for trying to make a story. But the first two times he touches his helmet were two totally different pitches! 0:30 touches his helmet - two seam fastball. 1:22 touches his helmet - 12-6 curveball! If he was supposed to be tipping, I'd be pretty mad as the batter sitting dead red 0-1 screwing myself into the ground. Get over it, play ball.
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10-02-2009 @ 7:04PM
punkindrublic6b said...
that first ptich is a change, not a 2 seamer, that would be offspeed.