In Advanced Scouting, MLB FanHouse's professional talent evaluator breaks down the playoffs from a scouting perspective.The Dodgers have gotten by down the stretch and in the playoffs despite a less than dynamic Manny Ramirez. While still productive, it's becoming blatantly obvious to opposing teams that Ramirez isn't as dangerous as he once was. The reality may be that he is a diminished player.
Of course, a diminished Ramirez is still a well above-average player. He's just not the out of this world hitter we've come to know.
Essentially, there seems to be a hole in Ramirez's offensive game that wasn't there before, and the Cardinals appear to be pitching to it over and over again. What consistently made Manny one of the most potent hitters over the last decade was his ability to cover and punish the good fastball inside, and also his ability to stay back long enough to drive the pitch away.
He no longer appears to have the incredible bat speed to pull that off. He now needs to sit on or cheat on the fastball inside and open up his front side earlier. By doing so, he is unable to stay on his back leg long enough to drive the outside pitch with any authority. More specifically, by opening up a little earlier to hit the fastball inside, he leaves only his arms and hands to hit off-speed pitches on the outer part of the zone.
The Cardinals will continue to stay away from Ramirez with the off-speed pitches like Adam Wainwright did on Thursday. As the game went on, Wainwright also began to attack with the fastball on the outer half, creating consistent late swings from the Dodger outfielder. The more we see of him, the more it seems that bat speed is the issue at this stage in his career.
Wainwright forced Ramirez to honor the 92-94 mph fastball, creating issues for the slugger when he tried to drive the ball with any authority and stayed away with the curveball. That's going to be the formula against him from here on out. He has enough bat control and coordination to still single to the opposite field, but he's going to need to prove he can drive it that way with the power of old. Whether Manny is diminished or will eventually return to his old form remains to be seen. But right now, this weakness exists. You can bet that the Cardinals and any other opposition the Dodgers may face should they advance in the playoffs are going to continue to exploit it.
Spotlight Moment
Wainwright's -- and the Cardinals' -- strategy against Ramirez was well illustrated in his seventh inning at-bat. With the count even at 1-1 they went at him with a fastball, but the pitch missed badly over the heart of the plate. Ramirez was late on the pitch, however, and fouled it off. Yadier Molina then called for a fastball in, which missed down. Still showing his patience, Manny took a tantalizing curveball in the dirt to run the count full. Ramirez then continued to foul off 93-94 mph fastballs. After he finally was able to turn on a fastball and ground it foul, Wainwright froze him with a devastating curveball on the outside corner. Wainwright deserves credit for feeding Manny a steady diet of fastballs until he proved he could catch up. Then, after speeding up his bat, Wainwright left Manny with almost no way of hitting his breaking ball with any authority.
How he handled Ramirez Thursday night should serve as a blueprint. Granted, few pitchers have Wainwright's stuff, but this at-bat and others in this game revealed a lot about Ramirez's declining ability to catch up to the fastball without sitting on it and his subsequent inability to react to the breaking ball.
Quick Hits
• Franklin Morales ended the regular season on somewhat of a sour note against the Dodgers with a nightmarish inning of work. But the Rockies were given a strong outing by their hard-throwing lefty in a key situation on Thursday afternoon. In to face Raul Ibanez, Morales pumped 95-96 mph fastballs and located a breaking ball at 73 mph on the corner. Getting a peak performing Morales in the playoffs could be a huge lift to their championship hopes. If he can come in and shut down the big Philadelphia lefties it will be a huge boost.
• Clayton Kershaw did not bring his best curveball to the mound on Thursday, but that's what made his outing so impressive. Kershaw looked a little strong early, leaving his curveball up in the zone and getting burned by Matt Holliday for a solo home run. Living 93-96 mph all night, the young lefty was extra aggressive in the zone. He was able to move the ball in and out and create a lot of late swings. It goes a long way for a young pitcher's psyche to be able to pitch effectively, even without his best weapon at certain points.
Frankie Piliere spent the last three seasons working as a scout, most recently in the professional scouting department for the Texas Rangers in 2009. He now serves as the National Baseball Analyst here at FanHouse.
2009 Baseball Playoffs
ANAHEIM, CA - OCTOBER 08: Kendry Morales #19 of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim celebrates with Chone Figgins #9 after defeating the Boston Red Sox 5-0 in Game One of the ALDS during the 2009 MLB Playoffs at Angel Stadium on October 8, 2009 in Anaheim, California. (Photo by Lisa Blumenfeld/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Kendry Morales;Chone Figgins
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Los Angeles Angels' Torii Hunter, right, and Juan Rivera celebrate after their team defeated the Boston Red Sox in Game 1 of the American League division baseball series in Anaheim, Calif., Thursday, Oct. 8, 2009. The Angels won 5-0. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)
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Los Angeles Angels' Torii Hunter, right, and Juan Rivera celebrate after their team defeated the Boston Red Sox in Game 1 of the American League division baseball series in Anaheim, Calif., Thursday, Oct. 8, 2009. The Angels won 5-0. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)
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ANAHEIM, CA - OCTOBER 08: Pitcher Darren Oliver #38 of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim celebrates with teammate catcher Jeff Mathias #2 after their teams 5-0 victory over the Boston Red Sox in Game One of the ALDS at Angel Stadium on October 8, 2009 in Anaheim, California. (Photo by Kevork Djansezian/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Darren Oliver; Jeff Mathis
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ANAHEIM, CA - OCTOBER 08: Torii Hunter #48 of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim celebrates with teammates Erick Aybar #2 and John Lackey #41 after defeating the Boston Red Sox 5-0 in Game One of the ALDS during the 2009 MLB Playoffs at Angel Stadium on October 8, 2009 in Anaheim, California. (Photo by Jacob de Golish/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Torii Hunter;Erick Aybar;John Lackey
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ANAHEIM, CA - OCTOBER 08: Torii Hunter #48 of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim hits a three-run home run against the Boston Red Sox in the fifth inning of Game One of the ALDS during the 2009 MLB Playoffs at Angel Stadium at Angel Stadium on October 8, 2009 in Anaheim, California. (Photo by Kevork Djansezian/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Torii Hunter
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ANAHEIM, CA - OCTOBER 08: Bobby Abreu #53 of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim rounds the bases to score as starting pitcher Jon Lester #31 of the Boston Red Sox reacts after giving up a three-run homerun to Torii Hunter #48 in the fifth iinning of Game One of the ALDS at Angel Stadium on October 8, 2009 in Anaheim, California. (Photo by Kevork Djansezian/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Bobby Abreu;Jon Lester
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Los Angeles Angels' Kendry Morales is tagged out at home by Boston Red Sox catcher Victor Martinez while trying to score from second in the seventh inning in Game 1 of the American League division baseball series Thursday, Oct. 8, 2009 in Anaheim, Calif. (AP Photo/Chris Carlson)
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Los Angeles Angels starting pitcher John Lackey smiles after leading his team to a 5-0 victory over the Boston Red Sox in Game 1 of the American League division baseball series Thursday, Oct. 8, 2009 in Anaheim, Calif. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)
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Los Angeles Angels' Torii Hunter is hit by a pitch by Boston Red Sox pitcher Ramon Ramirez during the seventh inning in Game 1 of the American League division baseball series Thursday, Oct. 8, 2009 in Anaheim, Calif. (AP Photo/Chris Carlson)
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
10-09-2009 @ 7:19AM
Jim said...
His play just go's to show the effect steroids have on players that cheat like the village idiot known as Manny. Suspended 50 games in which Juan Pierre played great and should be playing now, Manny knows he is on a short leash so he is staying clean and his game has gone down the drain.. Say goodbye to Manny now because unless he signs with Kansas City next year for the minimum, his playing days are gone. Thank God. No more Manny being Manny which means a retard acting like a retard.
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10-09-2009 @ 12:27PM
dillin63 said...
Say good bye to Manny? He can't sign with Kansas City,they don't have a team anymore DO THEY?
10-09-2009 @ 10:36AM
tonytiger18 said...
No juice, no great numbers!!!
Just look at Big Poopie this year, they aren't supermen anymore.
Dodgers fans remember the Dodgers are originally from Brooklyn. Even laid back Torre originated from Brooklyn.
How many of you LA Dodgers fans know how the name"DODGERS" came to be ?
I bet that maybe one out of a million might know.
I bet that even Lame ass Torre might not know, even though he was probably a Dodgers fan growing up in Brooklyn.
I am curious to know.
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10-10-2009 @ 2:19PM
Michelle said...
The Brooklyn Dodgers became so named because residents of Brooklyn constantly dodged the trolley cars that ran through their borough when they crossed the street
10-09-2009 @ 12:28PM
manfrommontana said...
I disagree with your article. I think we're seeing Manny without 'roids which in reality WOULD be Manny being Manny...for the first time in his career!
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10-09-2009 @ 12:33PM
manfrommontana said...
The name Dodgers came from the "Brooklyn Trolley-Dodgers". Everyone used to have to dodge trolley cars back in the day to get to the old ballpark, thus the name. it was then shortened to simply "Dodgers"
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10-09-2009 @ 2:02PM
tonytiger18 said...
You are correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The next question: why are they still called the Dodgers? There are no trolleys in LA.
What was the other name that the Brooklyn Dodgers were called?
I was never happy that they left even though I was a Yankee fan (one of the few in my neighborhood).
Gil Hodges lived acress the street from me on Bedford Ave, most of the Dodgers lived in the neighborhood.
10-09-2009 @ 4:56PM
a4manbob said...
THEY WERE ALSO CALLED THE BUMS
NOW THEY DODGE STRAY BULLETTS
10-09-2009 @ 3:29PM
mannysea18 said...
Just goes to show you how long Manny must have been cheating. No more roids, no more awsome production.
Hopefully this steroid cheat will be kept out of the
Hall of Fame like Mark MacGuire, Rafael ( I need Viagra at 35 years old ) Palmiero and hopefully Bonds.
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10-09-2009 @ 5:24PM
reikilight said...
It is nice to see that Manny is sinking to a minimal impact now that he can't 'roid himself up. The Dodger fans all dogged Bonds for years but when Manny got busted they all voiced support ... mainly based on Manny's hitting based on using steroids ... the owners and GM and even some of you so called "writers" on AOL all came out and wrote BS spin articles about what a wonderful person Manny is (LOL ... a egomaniac stuck on dumb) and now we are beginning to see the real "Manny being Manny" and all the hypocrites in LA and Boston are in denial about their "hero's" substance abuse. I think it is ridiculous to spend millions on trying to rip Bonds while Poopie and Manny and the hundreds and hundreds of PED users are somehow good people and role models. MLB is corrupt as hell and always has been and people keep buying into some sacred goodness of baseball while every player out there does use some kind of PED to be able to play everyday at a high level. It is a joke to blackball Bonds while scum like Manny and Poopie continue to use. It was no miracle when Boston wasn't even mentioned in the Mitchell report ... Mitchell works for Boston and somehow his team had no users? LOL ... more marketing BS! Screw spending millions on Bonds while the owners and players and MLB as an organization is as crooked as can be! Spending tax money on this BS is as stupid as it gets! Let these idiots kill themselves off using whatever they want to and quit spending money on making it "seem" like baseball is clean ... anyone with a brain knows better!
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10-10-2009 @ 12:54PM
Bob said...
I guess being off the Steroids has a little to do with it. When you have to actually work out and use your own talent instead of being Juiced up it makes it harder to be a real Super Star. Its just a shame for all the Fans and Kids that have to watch these so called stars make it look like the only way to WIN is Cheat and Lie about it. OVER THE COUNTER Natural Herbs. What a Joke
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10-10-2009 @ 1:00PM
jle615 said...
Manny's getting old as well. Not many can do what we use to do, in the good old (young) days.
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10-10-2009 @ 2:17PM
geldonski said...
Isn't amazing how the cheaters productivity falls off once they are off the juice.
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10-10-2009 @ 3:46PM
jetsocal said...
I find it odd that you left out the word "steroid" from your article. Apparently, the commenters have better common sense than you!
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10-10-2009 @ 9:49PM
waaaaazuuuuup said...
dodgers and yankees in the ws would be the bomb,,,,joe agaisnt his old team would be great for baseball ,,, would be as exciting as redsox yankees any day..
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